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Mar 23, 2023Liked by Bethel McGrew

So looking forward to the rest of this series!

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Mar 23, 2023Liked by Bethel McGrew

Brilliant.

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I applaud both Meyer and Kingsnorth in their approaches to apologetics. People come to faith in all sorts of ways, sometimes even illogically. God approaches us through both mind and heart.

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Fascinating. Is this whole series meant to be a intellectual cumulative case for Theism then?

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I'm not sure why you say that Orthodoxy has no apologetic tradition. The Church Fathers are the basis of all Orthodox theology and they are chock-full of apologetics.

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Mar 25, 2023·edited Mar 25, 2023Author

I see what you mean, but in practice that doesn't seem to have filtered down the way that it should. I know of one priest who responded to an offer of help equipping his congregation with apologetic resources by saying, "Oh, we're Orthodox so our kids never ask questions and we don't really need that stuff." Like just assuming it didn't mix.

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Well, we had J. Warner Wallace speak at our church and he was received with great interest. It's true that there's so much else to learn about in Orthodoxy (saints, liturgy, history, etc.) that apologetics is a lower priority than in Evangelical churches. But that doesn't mean that it's not part of our tradition. Some of the more philosophical forms are covered in the book I edited with Swinburne.

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That's very cool that you hosted Wallace! It may be that there are divergent "orthospheres" as well.

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When it comes to belief in God, I think all the arguments for His existence that can be made have been made. The question is how can we convince the broader culture that faith in God is the right thing in which to place faith?

People will believe what they want to believe. It took me longer than it should have taken me to realize that. My own conversion almost came as a surprise to myself. It still does, some days.

Hats off to Meyer and Kingsnorth; they're doing yeoman's work.

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Dr Michael Heiser (who recently died of pancreatic cancer) has some video on YouTube regarding the fact that Orthodox Biblical study has some merit because being Eastern their source material is naturally Greek & Aramaic where Augustine and other church fathers were basing their Biblical knowledge on Latin. Heiser was an Evangelical scholar but he has an interesting point. Some Orthodox Biblical interpretation does clear up some confusion when I read the Bible as a Western Protestant.

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Would be curious for your thoughts on recent series of short (by 2023 standards) conversations between John Vervaeke and an eastern Bishop. Definitely some anti-western jargon but for most part a lucid and (to my admittedly untrained ear) philosophically rigorous account of Eastern resources for alleviating the meaning crisis.0

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I have to confess I don't see much there there in John's project.

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